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Ortiz addresses summer school cancellation

Published: Friday, June 12, 2009

Updated: Saturday, September 5, 2009

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University President Michael Ortiz takes questions from students at the June 11 forum.


Students protesting the cancellation of summer school chanted “cut your salaries, fund the university” as they filed into Ursa Major of the Bronco Student Center for a meeting with University Michael Ortiz Thursday, June 11 at noon.

The protestors demonstrated in the form of a study-in and literally camped out with tents across from the library after receiving the email sent to all students stating that all summer classes were canceled due to a $400 million to $700 million projected state budget cut to the CSU system.

Emotions were high as students expressed individual and collective concerns.

“The purpose of the study-in is to show the university that we’re watching, that they can't make these without our consultation,” said Chris Rodriguez, a graduating gender ethnicity and multi cultural student, who was one of the students demonstrating this past week.

Rodriguez, along with many others, expressed a collective concern rather than individual issues at the forum.

“Even though it's finals week it doesn’t mean that we are not paying attention, or that we will stop studying, because we care about our education,” Rodriguez said. “We are also going to let the university know that we are not content with the way they have managed our funds. We feel there needs to be a reevaluation, and a restructuring of the administration.”

Rodriguez expressed strong feelings about the situation as he and other demonstrators held signs and brought up questions for Ortiz and other administrators during the open discussion.

“The administration has shown no dignity in the work that they do,” Rodriguez said. “In fact it’s just an insult to students.”

Other students expressed a call for unity across Cal Poly, rather than pointing the finger at the administration.

Student and outgoing ASI Vice President Marcy Daramola believes the dialogue between students and faculty should be strong in order to pull through this difficult economic time.

“As ASI Vice President it is fitting that this comes at the end of our term because it’s something that Jeff [Weintraub] and I have believed in this whole year, transparency,” Daramola said.

Daramola expressed her belief that the administration is acting on behalf of the welfare of the students.

“They are not trying to screw students over,” Daramola said. “Without us they don’t have a job. I don’t agree with every decision they make, but they are here to serve students. I truly trust the administration, having worked with them this whole year.”

Daramola believes students have the right to voice their opinions but also feel students should do their homework and understand completely what they are protesting.

“If you walk through the BSC, there is a pie chart that tells you where the money goes,” Daramola said. “The information is out there. If you don’t take advantage of it then you can’t complain because you didn’t take that extra step.”

Ortiz was the main administrator answering questions and concerns during the forum and expressed his frustration with the situation.

“I didn’t create this budget problem, but it is my responsibility to deal with it,” Ortiz said.

Despite the heated nature of the meeting Ortiz assured students that he was going to make decisions with their best interests in mind.

“All decisions that I’ve made since I’ve been here have always looked at the needs of the students. They have not always been popular decisions but that’s always been my first priority,” Ortiz said.

The decision to cancel summer courses was ultimately made by Ortiz along with a team of administrators.

“I’m looking at how I can provide services to the students in the fall winter and spring quarters without reducing those significantly and summer cancelation appeared to be the only solution,” he said.

For more specific information regarding summer courses visit the summer school 2009 website

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20 comments

yerfniW harpO
Tue Nov 24 2009 01:28
Ortiz looks like a big crook. Such small feet.

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PK
Thu Aug 20 2009 18:59
I look at this issue with a Gandhian view.The issue that has been racked up seems an absolutely avoidable one and I am sure everyone involved is trying hard to bury the differences and move forward. Its in nobody's interest. The school authority can not make such crucial decisions w/o even consulting the right student forum...On the other hand students need to raise their voice in a more civilised manner so as to increase the affability amongst the suthoritie who are at the helm of affairs....
Justin
Sat Jun 20 2009 14:35
@Claudia and Chris

While I disagree with you both on the issue of whether the use of facts makes an argument valid or not, you still need something to back up your claims. Anger and rage don't cut it. Sorry.

I asked a previous poster if he/she had any evidence that Ortiz was lining his and his constituent's pockets. I don't need data collected by "white male social scientists" to tell me whether that claim is true. That sort of data wouldn't even apply in this case.

Find me something that shows that Ortiz gave money to a constituent. Bring me a financial document, a photo, or an eyewitness that shows that he is irrefutably corrupt and I'll believe you.

What I won't do is believe a claim by someone that "feels" it might be happening. Just because you feel it doesn't make it true. Following this train of logic results in any opinion, no matter how ridiculous, extreme or unfounded being given the weight of truth.

@Chris
You say, "Cal Poly Pomona’s Associated Students INCORPRATED (sic) is innately bound to generating profit under the banner of 'Services for and by students.'"

The Associated Students is a NONPROFIT CORPORATION. Their corporate charter, state and federal law dictate that their goal does not include generating profit. Other well-known examples of this sort of corporation are: Amnesty International, the United Way, and NORML. However, I'm sure you'll find a way to say these too are tools of white men bent on oppression.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you an intern for ASI's art program?

Your name
Fri Jun 19 2009 23:44
I have my M.A. It's not that hard to get. I just think it's hilarious how you're lording it around and want everyone in internet land to know you've got one. Unless it's MD, DO, or PhD. You haven't achieved anything of real note.
Claudia Serrato, M.A.
Fri Jun 19 2009 23:05
Mike and to the one who is hiding behind this screen default name:

My response is not an attack on your ignorances. I am stating simple truths. This is a space to post comments on any current issue. To make a personal attack on my hard earned achievement in the educational pipeline is simply a reflection of your own incapabilities. Citations to argue for facts supported by evidence is the easiest thing to do. You pick a side, argue for it and back it up: facts and evidence. It is called research. Facts and evidences can be discussed openly in spaces such as this one. Arguments are not being graded (let's remember that). Either way, it is important to respect all ideologies. As a researcher I know how to play the academic game. I did not argue that facts and evidence are not needed to discuss the budget impacts on our schools but was pointing out the facts and evidences with current situations and budgets. Insulting me is a fact and it is evident that you do not agree with me. I am okay with that but know that it did not take a genius, citation or research project to figure that out.

Chris Rodriguez
Fri Jun 19 2009 21:49
I Feel Therefore I KNOW:

The beliefs I hold are backed up by my life experiences not what someone tells me to believe in.
Daramola’s claim that "students should do their homework [or] you can’t complain because you didn’t take that extra step” is rooted in a myth socially constructed by white male social scientists. These top-down social scientists have defined what truth is and how one must back it up. Firstly, truth as they proclaim is what can be "seen and heard" therefore it must be written down, documented and recorded. This is otherwise known as "empirical evidence." Seeing and hearing are senses that have been associated with the masculine and therefore dominant (according to the patriarchal social scientist). But what about that which we feel, smell, and taste??? Is that not how we know certain things too?? Nope! not according to the white man...those bodily senses (feel, smell, and taste) are associated with the feminine and therefore 'inferior" and NOT truth. So YES, providing facts and evidence is anglo-centric, patriarchal and imperialistic! I FEEL Therefore i KNOW.

Salute to Claudia and your M.A.! Not only did you show the white man that a Chicana can master his "knowledge systems" but you also expose how ignorant and backwards THEIR ways of thinking are too!

Keep talking back as bell hooks would say!

Mike
Fri Jun 19 2009 17:31
Yeah Claudia. That has to be THE most ignorant thing I've ever seen written on this site and that's saying A LOT. Get that MA off your screen name because you surely don't deserve it.
Your name
Fri Jun 19 2009 14:26
Wow, having facts and evidence is anglocentric, patriarchal and imperialistic?

That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anyone say in my entire life.

Holding beliefs without anything to back them up is ignorance, plain and simple.

Claudia Serrato, M.A.
Thu Jun 18 2009 15:32
Getting your "facts straight" through citing is a mere act of self puppeteering or mimicking an anglocentric, patriarchal, imperialist agenda which is a strategic form of manipulating truths. Social scientists do it ALL the time. This FACT is coming from first hand experience. To argue for facts based on citations in all do respect is not gonna cut it. I live in the real world and know real people. This budget issue is far from any scientific statistical graphic bar graph. Truth is that presidents of CSU's receive a housing, vehicle and entertainment stipends on top of their $400,000 salaries (which total more than $100,000). Truth is that my profas/es are being asked to take furloughs, meaning that campuses such as CSULA will be closed on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays or in the case of Cal Poly classes closed for summer. If you need a citation, cite me.
Your name
Thu Jun 18 2009 00:48
because without facts how is anyone supposed to know if your accusations/claims are true genius. Haven't you written a paper before? There is a reason we cite things. So people know we have our FACTS STRAIGHT!
Chris Rodriguez
Wed Jun 17 2009 19:13
why are deleting my comments???
Chris Rodriguez
Wed Jun 17 2009 19:09
The importance of "having our facts straight" so that we can be seen as a credible source for information is a cop-out. For those of us who have dedicated much of our academic career getting informed about all of the CSU salary/bonus scandals, mis-use of funds, bugdeting, and the history behind the CSU’s being built for working class people, are still dis-credited, humiliated, and shot-down by those at the top--Ortiz, Dr. Freer, Chancellor Reed and even our own ASI elected so-called representatives (Mercy).

What does this mean for us? It means that for some we internalize the humiliation, we become dis-empowered; our self-esteem is crippled, and lose hope.


During last week’s forum many students, in a brave and dignified way, stood up and voiced their rage and discontent with Ortiz and the CSU administration’s decisions. Some of us may have not had all of the facts straight (whatever that means) but, lke most of us, our rage...dignified rage is all we need to express our opposition and hold everyone responsible accountable. Regardless of this, those at the top do not care about nor are they sympathetic towards student's feelings. Ortiz and the administration have no dignity and can only rely on fabricated lies and psychological intimidation to shut us up. The ASI elected officials also become tools of this.

For those who chose to break the silence and speak truth to power: Ask yourself "why did i speak up? why did i spend the night all week in a tent on campus when i could have just gone home?" Maybe you will answer, "because i had to" or "it FELT right" or "because this isn't fare" or "i have to"...Isn't our rage against these cuts enough to validate our words?

Why should I show you the facts when you know this s#%& is wrong?

Chris Rodriguez
Wed Jun 17 2009 18:48
*Incorporated
Chris Rodriguez
Wed Jun 17 2009 18:47
The CSU Chancellor’s, trustees, administration and student governments do not act on behalf of the students. They act on behalf of money, capitalism, and “anonymous donors.” How can a student government that is a publicly recognized corporation act on behalf of students’ educational needs? Cal Poly Pomona’s Associated Students INCORPRATED is innately bound to generating profit under the banner of “Services for and by students.” Corporations are bound to capitalist ideals that depend on the exploitation of labor and natural resources. In affirmation to this, ASI President Jeff Weintraub outlined ASI’s goals during this economic turmoil in a letter to the students entitled “Words from Weitraub” stating “the goal is to decrease the cost of resources and increase the work accomplished.” This is only a solution to saving capitalism and perpetuating the budget crisis. A student elected government body should demand more resources and decrease the scarcity of quality education! Our ASI fees are not the only fees we pay and the chart displayed in the BSC is ambiguous and does not reveal an actual break-down by the dollar. Transparency for who? Why is the CSU system spending who knows how much money to lobby against SB 218 which demands transparency of auxiliaries i.e. bookstore and foundation and amounts donated to the school not by who but how much?? This is why we demand a re-structuring of the CSU administration by and for students, teachers and workers!
Your name
Wed Jun 17 2009 18:44
It is important to critically examine how students are affected by the top-down authoritarian decision making. It is even more important to examine which students are affected by this war against education. It is true that administrators would not have a job without students. But the students who are mostly affected by these budget cuts are students of color and lower working class communities. That is, it is these students who are being shut out of the CSU system. It is these students who will end up in the prisons and fighting this country's imperialist wars all over the world. For those students who have the economic ability to stay in the CSU system or pay the extra money to attend summer classes at the Extended University…they are being screwed too. California’s public education system is ranked poorest in the nation and offers little more than what it claims, “four-year, affordable quality education.”
Justin
Tue Jun 16 2009 09:50
Do you have any evidence that he's "lining his and his constituent's pockets" or are you just throwing out unfounded accusations?
Your name
Tue Jun 16 2009 02:27
Students should call for J. Michael Ortiz's immediate resignation. When he was first instated he claimed that he would bring money to the campus, but all he's done is used the funds to line his and his constituent's pockets. Ortiz's actions are completely unacceptable for a child, much less the supposed president of a nationally recognized university. Cal Poly Pomona needs strong leadership and it needs to come from the top. J. Michael Ortiz's resignation or dismissal, whichever comes first, is the primer step in rebuilding Cal Poly Pomona.
Your name
Tue Jun 16 2009 02:15
Students should call for J. Michael Ortiz's immediate resignation.
Your name
Tue Jun 16 2009 02:09
I guess this means Cal Poly is officially on the Trimester system.
hostile17
Mon Jun 15 2009 18:01
It's a shame, but if summer had to go to ensure fall and spring, it might have been the only trade off/option to the university.






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